A glance at HSBC - Did the market miss this one?

July 10, 2008 – 6:35 pm

I have started looking into HSBC. The bank has significant exposure to risky assets and incurred huge losses in the personal finances division in the US last year. Despite this, there has not been much of an impact on the bank’s stock price. HSBC ADRs currently trade at about $85 in the NYSE and has lost a marginal 6.9% compared to huge losses for commercial and investment banks in the similar period (although they are taking a beating today as I post this and accumulate a position).

In a recent development, Morgan Stanley cut HSBC’s rating to “underweight” from “equal weight” and it expects further material reserve requirements and downgrades after declines in the US home prices during the first half of 2008. Bad debts at HSBC Finance Corp., the bank’s U.S. consumer banking unit, may rise to $15 billion this year from $12.5 billion, Morgan Stanley said. Further, the deterioration may spread to the UK, implying that the growth in profits from the Asian region will not be sufficient to offset earnings declines in the US and U.K. In one of those rare occurrences, I concur with the Street’s Riskiest Bank.

The current price for HSBC ADR is around $76 and the stock has not lost much value since the beginning of this crisis. We first took a look at it in May. Given that a good portion of their profits come from emerging markets such as China and India, it appears highly likely that there could be more downside left.

Financial Ratios

Financial investments (In US$ million)

2005

2006

2007

US Treasury

8,997

10,203

6,831

US Government agencies

4,173

5,968

5,732

US Government sponsored entities

15,889

13,799

14,533

UK Government

7,740

7,502

749

Hong Kong Government

4,408

1,080

3,942

Other government

34,853

38,198

60,320

Asset-backed securities

2,889

26,750

65,962

Growth in ABS outstrips that in any other form of investment

Corporate debt and other securities

96,055

93,311

112,723

Equities

7,519

8,297

12,594

Total

182,523

205,108

283,386

Asset backed securties as a % of financial investments

2%

13%

23%

Derivatives (In US$ million)

2005

2006

2007

Foreign exchange

33,047

55,508

Interest rate

54,215

85,741

Equitie

10,767

20,230

Credit derivative

8,237

25,268

CDS and counterparty risk!!!

Commodity and other

1,304

1,107

Gross total fair values

107,570

187,854

Netting

(3,868)

-

Total

103,702

187,854

Credit derivative as % of total derivatives

8%

13%

Trading assets (in US$ million)

2006

2007

Trading assets:

– not subject to repledge or resale by counterparties

273,507

308,286

– which may be repledged or resold by counterparties

54,640

137,682

Potential counteryparty risk to be investigated (nearly tripled during trying times)

Total

328,147

445,968

Treasury and other eligible bills

21,759

16,439

Debt securities

155,447

178,834

Equity securities

27,149

51,476

subtotal

204,355

246,749

Loans and advances to banks

52,006

100,440

Counteryparty risk to be investigated (exposure has doubled during dire times)

Loans and advances to customers

71,786

98,779

Credit risk to be investigated

Total

328,147

445,968

Geographic Concentrations

Profit before tax (In %)

2005

2006

2007

Europe

30.3%

31.6%

35.5%

Hong Kong

21.5%

23.5%

30.3%

Rest of Asia-Pacific

12.3%

16.0%

24.8%

North America

28.2%

21.1%

0.4%

Latin America

7.7%

7.9%

9.0%

We all know N. America will probably go negative this quarter, but Europe is in the crapper and contributed more than one third of the profits last year. Asia has contributed more than half of last year’s profits, and it doesn’t look good for Asia for 2008 – specifically China, India and Japan.

Total assets, by geography ( in US$ million)

2006

2007

Europe

828,701

1,184,315

Hong Kong

272,428

332,691

Rest of Asia-Pacific

167,668

228,112

North America

511,190

510,092

Latin America

80,771

99,056

Total

1,860,758

2,354,266

HSBC’s largest asset concentrations are located in areas where assets are being devalued the most.

Profit before tax - from Personal financial service

By geographical region (in US$ million)

2005

2006

2007

Europe

1,932

1,909

1,581

Hong Kong

2,628

2,880

4,212

Rest of Asia-Pacific

377

477

760

North America

4,181

3,391

(1,546)

Latin America

786

800

893

Total

9,904

9,457

5,900

The US was the most profitable personal finance center, now they have to rely on areas that are heading into a hard landing.

The same goes for commercial, private and global banking.

Profit before tax - from Commercial Banking

By geographical region (in US$ million)

2005

2006

2007

Europe

1,939

2,234

2,516

Hong Kong

955

1,321